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  1. Yves

    Yves Member Member

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    I thought with other small items :angel:
     
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  2. Rym

    Rym Banned

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    A classic Mini?
     
  3. garythesnail

    garythesnail Swiss Toni

    It's a Polestar
     
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  4. Rym

    Rym Banned

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    I love a good Volvo....
     
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  5. peasantslife

    peasantslife Member Member

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    Polestar, Navistar, and volvo owns Mack.....
     
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  6. Ray Partner

    Ray Partner The Rayminator "Come with me if you want to live"

    When you look at most jap cars the wheels look to small.
     
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  7. BRMFUN

    BRMFUN Fun in a BRuM Moderator Member

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    This is a good point the wheels are too small on the Jazz!!
     
  8. GT-

    GT- Urban Legend Member

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    It's related to comfort levels I think, as Peasantslife mentioned on another thread recently, it's all part of the suspension setup.
     
  9. Rover Raver

    Rover Raver Super journalist

    That's a good point in relation to the growing trend for swipe 'smart' screens to operate the basic controls we are all accustomed to in a car. I appreciate using such technology works out a lot cheaper for the manufacturer in relation to the smaller number of parts needed and reduced assembly time involved compared to separate operating units with individual switches etc., but the older technology is certainly a lot safer to use while you are on the move.

    I can't even operate a smartphone (has no proper buttons, so is inconvenient and distracting to use), so I can see the day when I will probably have a crash when driving a new car because of trying to demist the windscreen when using a smart screen.
     
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  10. Fast Alan

    Fast Alan Mr September Staff Member Member

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    But you won't because the car will drive itself ,you will have lived in a world in which you knew the feeling of feedback through your steering ,a sense of exploring the limits of grip ,enjoying the roar of hitting the rev limits ,all will be lost to the great climate push in which you will eat grass a sing kumbaya.
     
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  11. GT-

    GT- Urban Legend Member

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    The good news is that self-driving cars and electrical gadgets don't necessarily go hand in hand. So much as to say, a self-driving car will likely have the mod-cons, but having the mod-cons doesn't mean it will be self driving.

    Besides, they have yet to decide who is at fault when autonomous cars crash, I believe this currently resides with the 'driver' as per any other car, so I believe we will be in control of our vehicles for a while yet.

    The first place I see autonomous vehicles being a thing, is public transport. I expect taxi's and private hire vehicles will be the first stages of self-driving cars, not intended to be owned or piloted by the average home consumer.


    At the risk of becoming a long-post, I shall continue :D

    I completely agree that the tablet-approach is not quite right for the driving experience. It's too distracting to be able to perform simple functions by memory reflex. Touchscreens just don't have the ability to be used blind. This might be OK for some functions, a pre-setup SatNav for example, or some media player functions. A completely digital instrument display for my dials, warnings and current status is also acceptable IMHO, because I don't need to touch those.

    My Lexus is almost as guilty. It has no touchscreen, but it does operate a lot by the screen itself. In the Lexus, the control uses a mouse, just like a computer, which sits where you would traditionally find the gearstick. It attempts to address the physical feedback by producing a resistance and click-into-place for where the buttons are on the screen, but there is still a need to see some change on the screen to know what you're doing. I am lucky that many of the controls, such as the heating, also has a traditional physical button setup that can be operated by memory action.

    Driving by menu option just doesn't work, IMHO.

    So what's the answer? I think it just needs more thought and investment from the car makers. The controls do not need to be a large slab, but one display is cheaper and easier than having lots of parts. Split the functions between control types, maybe use different touch interfaces for different controls, maybe with some haptic feedback to know when they have been pressed. It's possible, we're just no there yet.
     
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  12. BRMFUN

    BRMFUN Fun in a BRuM Moderator Member

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    Wow, @peasantslife@peasantslife eat your heart out!!! :laugh:
     
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  13. BRMFUN

    BRMFUN Fun in a BRuM Moderator Member

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    I think that @GT-@GT- and @Rover Raver@Rover Raver are spot on large screens are not practical long term, and when I test drove a Honda Jazz the car had a massive screen that controlled everything including the heater, the heater system was horrible to use and get right! So we opted for the lower spec with heater dials, much easier to use and we can live with the lower spec seat material which went from cheap to very cheap, with the bottom of the range having dirt cheap material :laugh:
     
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  14. Rover Raver

    Rover Raver Super journalist

    I don't think I know all the words to Kumbaya. Will I be given a song sheet to follow or will it appear on the screen in the car?
     
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  15. Fast Alan

    Fast Alan Mr September Staff Member Member

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    Just ask Alexa or who/what ever your car manufacturer calls their software bot .
     

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